Episode 19 - bonus

Frightened of My Baby: EVE CANAVAN (MMHAW Special Pt.1)

Published on: 2nd May, 2022

I chat to perinatal mental health blogger, peer supporter and charity campaigner Eve Canavan, BEM in this Blue MumDays special for Maternal Mental Health Awareness Week. Eve is a founding member of the Perinatal Mental Health Partnership and the lead co-ordinator for MMHAW - now in its 6th year and a global success. In this fantastic and super honest chat, Eve tells me about her lived experience of postpartum psychosis, 12 years ago after the birth of her son.

(In Part 2, she discusses the birth of MMHAW and how she collaborated with EastEnders to deliver Stacey's PPP storyline.)

*TRIGGER WARNING: POSTPARTUM PSYCHOSIS, brief mention of MISCARRIAGE*



IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:

[00:00] Teaser quote.

[01:40] Introduction to Eve Canavan.

[05:31] Life before motherhood.

[10:20] Why it's important for women to own their own experiences.

[13:00] Suffering incontinence after giving birth.

[14:07] Bleeding after birth - 'lochia'.

[17:51] Speaking out about perinatal illness - sharing your story.

[25:11] Eve's birth experience.

[27:10] The first signs that things weren't right.

[32:24] Leaving hospital - early signs of postpartum psychosis.

[34:41] Realising she was frightened of her baby - feeling trapped.

[37:15] Escalating psychosis.

[40:07] Being fobbed off

[43:11] Finally seeing a psychiatrist - being admitted to a Mother & Baby Unit.

[45:15] Given medication to help and exposure therapy.

[50:25] Getting better - Home-Start, complex PTSD and EMDR therapy.

[51:15] Wanting to tell her story - choosing what to share.

[54:31] The difference between the baby blues, PND and postpartum psychosis.

[57:03] Postpartum psychosis is a psychiatric emergency.


KEY TAKEAWAYS:

  1. Peer support can be a tremendous help - just knowing you are not alone and getting some hope of recovery. Try and find support groups in your local area (Facebook is normally helpful for this).
  2. Information on double wombs can be found on this link.
  3. You can read Eve's blog here.
  4. Perinatal Mental Health Partnership
  5. Action on Postpartum Psychosis.
  6. Don't be afraid to tell your GP or health visitor about how you're really thinking or feeling - it may feel frightening, but it's really crucial for getting the support you need.
  7. Home-Start - local support for families.
  8. EastEnders: Stacey's storyline
  9. Mind - the mental health charity's information on postpartum psychosis


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SUPPORT:

If you are struggling right now, please know that it’s okay to talk and reach out for help. 

YOU ARE NOT ALONE AND WILL NOT FEEL THIS WAY FOR EVER. 

We hope these support services are helpful (please note we do not check or monitor them individually).

 

Action on Postpartum Psychosis (APP)

Moderated Forum, click here to find out more.

Email: app@app-network.org

Tel: 020 3322 9900

 

AIMS for better birthing.

Email: helpline@aims.org.uk

This email will go to a group of AIMS volunteers and someone will respond as soon as possible.

Telephone: +44 (0) 300 365 0663

You will be able to leave a voicemail message which will be sent to all our Helpline Volunteers. Please include your name, phone number and brief details of your enquiry. A Volunteer will try to call you back as soon as possible.


Andy's Man Club

A non-judgemental talking group for men

https://andysmanclub.co.uk/club-information/clubs/

Email: info@andysmanclub.co.uk


Association of Postnatal Illness

Helpline: 10am – 2pm – 0207 386 0868

Email: info@apni.org

Live chat online facility

 

Best Beginnings

Free NHS-accredited Baby Buddy app offering

evidence-based information and self-care tools to help parents during pregnancy

and early stages of parenting.

App users also have access to a confidential, text-based Crisis Messenger which provides

24/7 support for new and expectant parents who are feeling extremely anxious or overwhelmed.


Bi-Polar UK

email: info@bipolaruk.org


Birth Trauma Association

Email: support@birthtraumaassociation.org.uk

 

CALM

Contact CALM

on their national helpline: 0800 58 58 58 (5pm-midnight)

 

Cedar House Support Group

Email: lwise@talktalk.net (Liz Wise)

Mobile: 07773 283556


Contact: for families with disabled children

Support, advice and information for parents with disabled children.

 

DadsNet 

Offers support and knowledge through a community of dads on practical parenting and fatherhood.


Family Lives

An organisation providing immediate help from volunteer parent support workers 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.


Family Rights Group

Support for parents and other family members whose children are involved with or need social care services.

 

Fathers Reaching Out

https://www.reachingoutpmh.co.uk/

Run by Mark Williams, campaigner, speaker and writer, offering support to dads.


FiveXMore

A grassroots organisation committed to changing Black women and birthing people’s maternal health outcomes in the UK.

fivexmore@gmail.com


Gingerbread

Single parents, equal families. Help and advice on the issues that matter to lone parents.


The Hub of Hope

A directory of mental health support around the UK.


LGBT Mummies

Supporting LGBT+ women & people globally on the path to motherhood or parenthood.

Email: contact@lgbtmummies.com


Make Birth Better (Birth Trauma Support)

Email: hello@makebirthbetter.org

 

Maternal OCD

Peer support available, email info@maternalocd.org to

arrange


The Motherhood Group

Dedicated to sharing and supporting the black maternal experience through peer support, projects and advocacy.

info@themotherhoodgroup.com

 

Motivational Mums Club

Offering Trauma, Mindfulness and Meditation sessions for Mothers and Mums to be with an NHS Mental Health Specialist, who’s also a Mother.

motivationalmumsclub@gmail.com


Music Football Fatherhood

Open conversations around fatherhood, including blogs, peer support and podcasts.

hello@musicfootballfatherhood.com


Muslim Women’s Network

Helpine: 0800 999 5786, open Mon-Fri 10am –

4pm with support offered in English, Urdu, Punjabi, Mirpuri, Putwari, Hindko,

and Bengali.

Email: info@mwnhelpline.co.uk

Online chat: www.mwnhelpline.co.uk

Text: 07415 206 936

 

Netmums

Netmums offer peer support via their Maternal Mental Health Drop-In

Clinic.

 

NHS

Contact your local GP surgery.

Call the NHS on 111

or contact a local NHS urgent mental health helpline

If you are in crisis, visit Accident & Emergency at your nearest hospital.

 

PANDAS

Helpline open from 9am-8pm every day – 0843 2898 401

Email support available – info@pandasfoundation.org.uk

 

Petals

Petals offers free-of-charge specialist counselling to anyone who has experienced pregnancy

or baby loss.

Web: petalscharity.org/counsellingcontact/

Email: counselling@petalscharity.org

Tel: 0300 688 0068

 

Samaritans

Tel: 116 123

(this is a free telephone number and will not appear on the phone bill)

Web: www.samaritans.org

Email: jo@samaritans.org

 

Shout

Text SHOUT to 85258 to start a confidential conversation with a trained Shout volunteer.

 

Twins Trust

Twinline is Twins Trust’s listening service for parents of twins, triplets and more. All

the calls are answered by volunteers who have multiples themselves.

Twinline is open Monday to Friday 10am to 1pm and from 7pm to 10pm. 0800 138 0509,

alternatively email asktwinline@twinstrust.org.

Web: twinstrust.org/let-us-help/support/twinline.html

 

Tommy’s

Tommy’s has a team of in-house midwives who offer free support and information for women and their families at any stage of pregnancy and after the birth.

Web: www.tommys.org

Helpline: Tommy’s

helpline has been closed temporarily but their midwives are answering questions

via email, FacebookInstagram and Twitter.

Email: midwife@tommys.org

 

MUSIC by Joseph McDade


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BLUE MUMDAYS
The Parental Mental Health Podcast
Blue MumDays is a podcast about perinatal illness, parenting and being kind to yourself. Up to 1 in 7 mums and 1 in 10 dads will suffer with their mental health after the birth of their baby. Having once interviewed the likes of Sir David Attenborough and Hans Zimmer during my BBC career, I’m now speaking to mums, dads and mental health experts each week, in an effort to understand my own experience of postnatal depression. Dispelling myths, smashing stigma & bringing hope to parents having a hard time.

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Vikki Stephenson

Vikki Stephenson is a Senior Creative, Consultant and Speaker with 20 years’ experience making award-winning campaigns for the BBC’s highest profile brands: Planet Earth II, Panorama, CBeebies, EastEnders, Dracula. Her work has been recognised internationally, winning 35+ industry awards - most since becoming a mum and working part-time.

12 years ago Vikki gave birth to her much-wanted son. Whilst she loved him dearly, she suffered a traumatic birth and felt overwhelmed and ill-equipped with the responsibility of bringing a human being into the world. She very quickly developed PND and anxiety, which left her with feelings of total failure. She worried that she didn't have the right answers, instincts or knowledge to be 'good enough' as his mum. The first year of her son's life was sadly the hardest of Vikki's and she endlessly compared herself to others who seemed to find motherhood easy. However, through the support of the Cedar House Charity and long-term anti-depressants, Vikki slowly recovered.

12 years on, she is now a passionate advocate of perinatal mental health and is on a mission to help parents feel less alone, through her podcast series ‘Blue MumDays’. Its purpose is to help other mums and dads better understand their illness and give them the hope that they will make a full recovery. It gives a voice to the lived experience of real sufferers who have reached the other side, and - through interviews with experts – will signpost mums, dads, their partners and friends to help and support that may be hard to find.