Episode 2

The Lockdown Mum: EMILY GOLDHILL

Published on: 27th December, 2021

I speak to Emily Goldhill about what it was like to have her baby during the height of the Covid pandemic in 2020. From her husband not being able to attend scans, to a lack of support and activities during the early months, it heavily contributed to her developing postnatal depression. Becoming a new parent can be isolating and lonely at the best of the times, so I can't imagine how hard it must have felt during lockdown.

*Apologies for the audio quality on this episode, thanks in part to a dodgy Zoom connection and an overzealous Siamese cat called Brandy *

IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:

[00:00] Introduction to Emily Goldhill

[02:23] Navigating starting nursery and the return to work

[04:29] Emily's life before pregnancy

[05:40] Falling pregnant at the start of the Covid 19 pandemic

[07:32] Not being able to have her husband attend the scans

[09:26] How this affected Emily's mental health

[12:26] Early awareness of Covid - how it altered Emily's experience of being pregnant

[15:53] Expectations of what pregnancy 'should be like' vs. lived experience

[20:34] Giving birth in the pandemic. "My husband basically missed the birth" - not being listened to during labour

[26:45] The impact this had on Emily's postnatal illness

[28:57] Taking baby Ernie home for the first time

[30:41] More than the baby blues - "I can't do this"

[33:15] Emily's lack of a support network, due to the Pandemic

[35:10] How Covid 'cancelled' their first family Christmas

[36:44] Feelings of guilt and inadequacy - "they'd be better off without me"

[39:37] Trying to get support - talking therapy

[40:38] Not being seen as a pregnant mother due to Covid - lack of baby groups etc.

[42:25] The dangers of social media and Googling for new mums

[46:25] Starting to recover - feeling more in control

[47:35] Thinking about the return to work

[48:45] How being out and about again in the world more has helped

[50:58] How every baby and every mother is different - there is no set way of doing things.


KEY TAKEAWAYS:

  • Transitions like the start of nursery or the return to work can cause anxiety for any parent, so if you feel your symptoms being triggered by change, then you are not alone.
  • How being pregnant during Covid can make you feel robbed of the experience you thought you might or should have had.
  • It's good to have your partner or someone who can advocate for you at the birth, to ensure you feel listened to during your labour.
  • The need to be 'seen' during your pregnancy - how this can impact on your experience of becoming a new mum.
  • It can be dangerous to compare yourself to other mums and your approaches to motherhood - especially on social media.
  • Beware of obsessive Googling - there is no right way of doing things (instead a lot of different approaches) and the conflicting information can be overwhelming.
  • Every baby and every mother is different, and with time you'll set your own rhythm. Believe in yourself and your instincts. You will get to know your baby better than anyone.
  • Edinburgh Postnatal Depression Scale


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NEXT WEEK’S EPISODE:

In Episode 3 I’ll be talking to Elliott Rae of 'Music, Football, Fatherhood'. Elliott founded MFF after suffering from PTSD following the traumatic birth of his daughter. He has subsequently become one of the UK’s most prominent speakers on fatherhood, masculinity and mental health, with the BBC describing MFF as the "Dad's version of Mumsnet".


SUPPORT:

If you are struggling right now, please know that it’s okay to talk and reach out for help. 

YOU ARE NOT ALONE AND WILL NOT FEEL THIS WAY FOR EVER

We hope these support services are helpful (please note we do not check or monitor them individually).

 

Action on Postpartum Psychosis (APP)

Moderated

Forum, click here to find out more.

Email: app@app-network.org

Tel: 020 3322 9900

 

Association of Postnatal Illness

Helpline: 10am – 2pm – 0207 386 0868

Emailinfo@apni.org

Live chat online facility

 

Best Beginnings

Free NHS-accredited Baby Buddy app offering

evidence-based information and self-care tools to help parents during pregnancy

and early stages of parenting.

App users

also have access to a confidential, text-based Crisis Messenger which provides

24/7 support for new and expectant parents who are feeling extremely anxious or

overwhelmed.

Birth Trauma Association

Email: support@birthtraumaassociation.org.uk

CALM

Contact CALM

on their national helpline: 0800 58 58 58 (5pm-midnight)

 

Cedar

House Support Group

Email: lwise@talktalk.net

(Liz Wise)

Mobile: 07773 283556

 

Make Birth Better (Birth Trauma Support)

Email:

hello@makebirthbetter.org

 

Maternal OCD

Peer support available, email info@maternalocd.org to

arrange

 

Muslim Women’s Network

Helpine: 0800 999 5786, open Mon-Fri 10am –

4pm with support offered in English, Urdu, Punjabi, Mirpuri, Putwari, Hindko,

and Bengali.

Emailinfo@mwnhelpline.co.uk

Online chatwww.mwnhelpline.co.uk

Text: 07415 206 936

 

Netmums

Netmums offer

peer support via their Maternal Mental Health Drop-In

Clinic.

 

NHS

Contact your

local GP surgery.

Call the NHS

on 111

or contact a local NHS urgent mental health helpline

If you are in

crisis, visit Accident & Emergency at your nearest hospital.

 

PANDAS

Helpline open

from 9am-8pm every day – 0843 2898 401

Email support

available – info@pandasfoundation.org.uk

Petals

Petals offers

free-of-charge specialist counselling to anyone who has experienced pregnancy

or baby loss.

Web: petalscharity.org/counsellingcontact/

Email: counselling@petalscharity.org

Tel: 0300 688 0068

Samaritans

Tel: 116 123

(this is a free telephone number and will not appear on the phone bill)

Web: www.samaritans.org

Email: jo@samaritans.org

 

Shout

Text SHOUT

to 85258

to start a confidential conversation with a trained Shout

volunteer.

 

Twins Trust

Twinline is

Twins Trust’s listening service for parents of twins, triplets and more. All

the calls are answered by volunteers who have multiples themselves.

Twinline is

open Monday to Friday 10am to 1pm and from 7pm to 10pm. 0800 138 0509,

alternatively email asktwinline@twinstrust.org.

Web: twinstrust.org/let-us-help/support/twinline.html

 

Tommy’s

Tommy’s has a

team of in-house midwives who offer free support and information for women and

their families at any stage of pregnancy and after the birth.

Web: www.tommys.org

Helpline: Tommy’s

helpline has been closed temporarily but their midwives are answering questions

via email, FacebookInstagram and Twitter.

Email: midwife@tommys.org

 

MUSIC by Joseph McDade

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BLUE MUMDAYS
The Parental Mental Health Podcast
Blue MumDays is a podcast about perinatal illness, parenting and being kind to yourself. Up to 1 in 7 mums and 1 in 10 dads will suffer with their mental health after the birth of their baby. Having once interviewed the likes of Sir David Attenborough and Hans Zimmer during my BBC career, I’m now speaking to mums, dads and mental health experts each week, in an effort to understand my own experience of postnatal depression. Dispelling myths, smashing stigma & bringing hope to parents having a hard time.

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Vikki Stephenson

Vikki Stephenson is a Senior Creative, Consultant and Speaker with 20 years’ experience making award-winning campaigns for the BBC’s highest profile brands: Planet Earth II, Panorama, CBeebies, EastEnders, Dracula. Her work has been recognised internationally, winning 35+ industry awards - most since becoming a mum and working part-time.

12 years ago Vikki gave birth to her much-wanted son. Whilst she loved him dearly, she suffered a traumatic birth and felt overwhelmed and ill-equipped with the responsibility of bringing a human being into the world. She very quickly developed PND and anxiety, which left her with feelings of total failure. She worried that she didn't have the right answers, instincts or knowledge to be 'good enough' as his mum. The first year of her son's life was sadly the hardest of Vikki's and she endlessly compared herself to others who seemed to find motherhood easy. However, through the support of the Cedar House Charity and long-term anti-depressants, Vikki slowly recovered.

12 years on, she is now a passionate advocate of perinatal mental health and is on a mission to help parents feel less alone, through her podcast series ‘Blue MumDays’. Its purpose is to help other mums and dads better understand their illness and give them the hope that they will make a full recovery. It gives a voice to the lived experience of real sufferers who have reached the other side, and - through interviews with experts – will signpost mums, dads, their partners and friends to help and support that may be hard to find.